November 20th

Still waiting for my coffee and rum…

Got it…

Got it…

Got it…

Had one…

This is NZ32503 “McIntyre”, mine was NZ32501 “Clyde”


10 Responses to November 20th

  1. Christopher Thomson says:

    Hey, you never had the APC. You only had a loan of it. I had forgotten about Cambrai Day. Wonder if I can get the missus to do the coffee and rum delivered bedside like the officers used to. Would be handy if she was naked like they were too.

    When was that photo taken? 1 Scots ‘nam or Waiberia?

  2. Old Fat Sailor says:


  3. As Bill Mauldin put it in one of his cartoons, “A moving foxhole attracts the eye.”

  4. I just looked up the M113 in Wikipedia and it had this interesting section:

    The M113 has never received an official name, but has received a variety of nicknames over the years. The ARVN called it the “Green Dragon”; the Swiss referred to it as the “Elefantenrollschuh” or elephants’ roller-skate. The Germans called it the “Schweinewürfel” or pig cube.[14][15] U.S. troops tended to refer to the M113 simply as a “track”[16] or an ACAV. The Israeli official name for the M113 is “Bardelas” (Cheetah) but the troops call it “Zelda”. The Australian Army refers to its M113A1s as “Buckets,” and the modified M113A1 fitted with 76 mm turrets as “Beasts”. In the Norwegian army it is commonly referred to as the “Vietnam Dumpster”. Among Danish soldiers it is often called “Dåsen” meaning “The (tin)Can”. The Spanish army called it the official name TOA (Transporte Oruga Acorazado). Another nickname, “Zippo”, is actually reserved for the M132 Armored Flamethrower, which is based on the M113.

    Which made me wonder: what do you Kiwis call them?

  5. Murray says:

    Chris when you do $15,000 worth of damge you get a sense of ownership.

    Steve Pickworth did better by taking out the hanger roller door in the belief that he didn;t need a ground guide, but still a credible effort.

    That on was 4/1 in Waiberia. I was 2/1 in tropical Tekapo. No idea when it was taken but it was during our “lets hang all the grunts kit on the outside and drive through puddles” phase. About ’85 ’86 I’d guess.

  6. Christopher Thomson says:

    Ah, very interesting. I was 75 – 79 in ‘nam. I can recall a few exercises in Winter Warfare with the 25th Tropic Lighting Division in Waiouru in June when the yanks flew in directly from Hawaii. One time I saw an F4 Phantom do a bomb run directly overhead. Awesome. Also did Tekapo a few times.

    I just always referred to them as a ‘PC’. As in “I will get the PC and move it there”, or “put your PC over there”. Considering that the yanks loved to name all their armor it is odd that this piece of kit was never titled.

  7. Murray says:

    I think we “found” an entire kitbag from the last Tropic lightening.

    Boy did those guys looked cold. It’s so cute they way they hang their washing out and still expect it to be there the next day.

  8. A lot of American equipment in WWII didn’t formally have names in the US, and ended up being branded by the Brits. It was the Brits who named the M3 tank “Stuart” (after General J.E.B. Stuart, a general of the cavalry in the Confederate army). They’re also the ones who named the M4 tank the “Sherman”.

    And it turns out that it was the Brits who gave the name “Mustang” to the P-51. (A sweet name for a sweet fighter plane.)

  9. Murray says:

    And then we renamed the Stuart the Honey.

    Because we like to ignore the British military whenever possible on principle.

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